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Which works won the Retro Hugos?


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Looking at the breakdown of the ballots Bill polled better than I was expecting considering he was going up against a work involving Doctor Who.

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I didn't specifically identify myself to the other people in the chatroom. The nomination got no notice at all; the only comment was that the Dr. Who chicks book would win it. OK. After the way Jim got screwed out of his Hugo, I have low expectations. As Tim Kyger says, it's in the nature of fandom.

"It's an honor just to be nominated."


Well, that was prophetic! Since I've never seen Dr. Who, amybe someone can clue me in on why it's got all these fans...

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Heartfelt and well-understood condolences, Bill.

A f*cking travesty, if you ast me. At least I lost by a razor-thin margin to a Big Name Book (lost the Locus Award to some guy named King, too). To pull so well in the voting and lose to a... junk media book... is just sickening.

Proves again that...
  1. Life ain't fair.
  2. Fans, collectively, are f*cking idiots.
  3. Just Being Nominated Is The Real Honor.

I really don't know how anyone can take Hugo Awards seriously. Even if I had one gathering dust on the shelf here (seven late-game votes withstanding), I'd be saying the same thing at this point. It's a popularity contest in a kindergarten class. A slow kindergarten class.

(Just passing through, back to life in another dimension that has no "fans"...)

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Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:52 am
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James--just wanted to say that I bought your book recently. I suppose it's a reference book but I read it from cover to cover and learned many new things. Just want to say thanks for all the hard work you obviously put in. I am looking to write more about RAH in the future and I'll be going back to it many, many times, I'm sure.

Thanks again!

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RobertPearson wrote:
Since I've never seen Dr. Who, amybe someone can clue me in on why it's got all these fans...

Consider the hypothesis that it's good. (-:

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beamjockey wrote:
RobertPearson wrote:
Since I've never seen Dr. Who, amybe someone can clue me in on why it's got all these fans...

Consider the hypothesis that it's good. (-:

Well, that had occurred to me... :D

The thing ran for umpteen years on the first go-round and they revived it, too. I may even have to watch it if I can find someplace to watch it for free...and then read the Hugo-winning book. Maybe I need to expand my horizons a bit.

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I've tried watching Dr. Who a number of times, but like most British productions (Sorry, Peter ;) ), I find them tedious unless there's comedy involved.

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Mike Glyer at the File 770 site passes along Robert James's that Bill Patterson became ill during Worldcon:
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William J. Patterson, author of the Hugo-nominated Heinlein biography, returned to LA on Monday and posted that he would probably be admitted to Cedars Sinai Hospital. Dr. Robert James explained that Bill had been feeling progressively sicker over the weekend — feverish, exhausted and nauseous.
I hope Bill is better by now.

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RobertPearson wrote:
beamjockey wrote:
RobertPearson wrote:
Since I've never seen Dr. Who, amybe someone can clue me in on why it's got all these fans...

Consider the hypothesis that it's good. (-:

Well, that had occurred to me... :D

The thing ran for umpteen years on the first go-round and they revived it, too. I may even have to watch it if I can find someplace to watch it for free...and then read the Hugo-winning book. Maybe I need to expand my horizons a bit.


I'm a big fan of Doctor Who but I do think the earlier incarnations have to be watched with an awareness of when and how they were made. They can look cheap and cheesy, otherwise. But the characters are what make it worth watching and the low budget production doesn't matter so much. The recent series (that started with Christopher Eccleston, replaced by David Tennant and now Matt Smith) has production (sets, costumes, VFX, etc.) that is as good as any TV series but it is still the characters and the writing that really make it worth seeing.

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