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Is Heinlein Sexist? 
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If you make it "no heroines over 40" the contention holds. Thirty-somethings are the far edge if you count Wyoh and a few other not-certains. (Girdie in Podkayne comes to mind.)

Clearly, Heinlein women were meant to age into mothers and/or Mrs. Keithleys. No future for them as ruggedly mature universe-changers.

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<nod> I can think of quite a few older women in Heinlein's books, but they're usually Howard Family or rejuvs or somesuch -- not obviously older to those around them. So I think the comments are on target. One of my best friends thinks that Heinlein was horrendously sexist: she can't read his stuff at all. I never did; he struck me as having 1920s/30s era ideas, a mishmash of "women can do anything" and "but I sure like them when they do what they do best", which *always* involved sex and or kids. <wry grin> I'm a woman of 50 who never had kids, and I have no interest in becoming another Mrs. Keithley nor skill in that. The world is just a bit bigger in some ways than Heinlein ever managed to grasp.

Since that's true of most people, though, I don't think badly of him for it. I suspect I'd have liked him if I'd ever met him, in spite of his Lazarus Long attitudes about some things. ;)

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I was gonna mention Hazel Stone, but Bill beat me to it. Am I remembering incorrectly - isn't there a reverse continuum between Hazel and someone in Moon (and maybe Cat)? Memory is fuzzy on the details and I'm too lazy to look it up.

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There is. In MIAHM, Hazel Stone is a preadolescent girl who gets mixed up in a violent protest, acquits herself extremely well, and ends up being adopted by the hero's family. In TCWWTW, Hazel Stone under another name marries the hero and recruits him into the Long family.

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