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I hate to disagree but I do not think baroque contrapuntal music is an acquired taste (except possibly sarabandes,) which are too slow for most modern ears. The faster movements seem pretty accessible to me if they are played with a lilt and not slogged through like a scale book.

Lots of our kids liked them and whistled them in the shower without any training - both 16th and 18th century counterpoint have movements that are pretty "catchy".

Actually come to think of it our youngest really likes Palestrina, and he is only ten and I have never taught him anything about counterpoint.


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Well, sometimes people need pissing off, and I'm not going to sit in judgement on that generically. I accept in the macro sense that can be a legitimate aim of art --given the history of sf, how could I not?

But I will say the more it is done in a cheap/easy way, the less respect I have for it *as art* --and the more I assume that controversy for controversy's sake, rather than an honest attempt to change hearts and minds thru the power of art, is the goal.

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Or said another way, if an audience of twenty insists that an artist is great, and they are the only ones who understand why. . .

. . . then without foreclosing the possibility they are correct, I really have to ask myself to what degree what they are really doing is celebrating their own greatness for having (they say) figured him out, rather than celebrating the artist's greatness.

But I am confident that the artist, likely long dead, would have been much happier if far more than twenty had grokked him to fullness (assuming he wouldn't have just been appalled by their analysis in the first place).

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I obviously heard classical music prior to college; one could hardly avoid it in commercials and movies.

But I never chose to listen to it until I was in college, and took one of those classical music appreciation courses; 30 seconds of Bach and I was addicted.

Counterpoint was immediately accessible, but then I was 20....

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