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This might be of interest to some.


Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:10 pm
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Absolutely freaking excellent! Thank you for posting this.

Of course, the author's misgivings as stated in the first footnote have, as we know, now been gloriously overtaken by events. You can now throw the rest of that trash out 'cause we got Learning Curve.

And we'll soon have...what the hell are you going to call Part II, Bill?

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The Man Who Learned Better, of course.

That was originaly going to be the title of the whole biography, but Tor's marketing wienies said it has to have RAH as the first words in the title or else bookstore computers can't find it.

In that schema, I really wanted to subtitle volme 2 "Time enough for love." Do you think they would have let me get away with that?


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Tor? Unlikely, although PNH and TNH would have been amused. ;)

I'm about 50 pages in on my second reading of "Learning Curve". Impressions of my first reading are confirmed; your research is superb and there are lots of details that help paint the picture of who RAH was and how he became that. The detail that most caught my eye the first time through was the near-nomination for a Rhodes scholarship. I'd always known Heinlein was very bright, but that's the norm in the SF world. I hadn't known that he was considered academically talented at that level in college, though. My grandfather graduated from the Naval Academy in 1923, six years before Heinlein. Grandad was a teacher and principal of a prep school after he retired from the Navy. He got his BA, and then MA, long after graduating from the Academy, and told me that he learned what academic rigor was during graduate school, not at the Academy. (At the time, he was explaining to me that I should go somewhere else, which amused me because I'm completely unfit for military life and never even considered one of the military academies.)

When does the second half come out?

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The Man Who Learned Better, of course.

That was originaly going to be the title of the whole biography, but Tor's marketing wienies said it has to have RAH as the first words in the title or else bookstore computers can't find it.

In that schema, I really wanted to subtitle volme 2 "Time enough for love." Do you think they would have let me get away with that?
Okay (granting that this is a superb work about a wonderful writer and I'm just goofing here), my nominations for volume titles:
1. Boy Meets Girl(s); or, A Misfit Thrusting into Pulp Space
2. The Little Tailor; or, Wearing the Future as His Personal Suit of Clothes

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BillPatterson wrote:
The Man Who Learned Better, of course.

Inside Straight would work better. :D

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sakeneko wrote:
Tor? Unlikely, although PNH and TNH would have been amused. ;)

I'm about 50 pages in on my second reading of "Learning Curve". Impressions of my first reading are confirmed; your research is superb and there are lots of details that help paint the picture of who RAH was and how he became that. The detail that most caught my eye the first time through was the near-nomination for a Rhodes scholarship. I'd always known Heinlein was very bright, but that's the norm in the SF world. I hadn't known that he was considered academically talented at that level in college, though. My grandfather graduated from the Naval Academy in 1923, six years before Heinlein. Grandad was a teacher and principal of a prep school after he retired from the Navy. He got his BA, and then MA, long after graduating from the Academy, and told me that he learned what academic rigor was during graduate school, not at the Academy. (At the time, he was explaining to me that I should go somewhere else, which amused me because I'm completely unfit for military life and never even considered one of the military academies.)

When does the second half come out?

Haven't even received the first batch of edit on Vol. 2 yet. It's not absolutely impossible it should be out in time for Xmas 2011, but it's more likely spring or summer 2012.


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RobertWFranson wrote:
<snip>2. The Little Tailor; or, Wearing the Future as His Personal Suit of Clothes

I like it! Of course, I could also use Heinlein's original working title for IWFNE: "Now I lay me . . ."


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Never mind that, what's the third half going to be called? :P


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Never mind that, what's the third half going to be called? :P
By These Bootstraps is slick, but The Man Who Traveled in Bootstraps has a piquancy.

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