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Okay, so we finally rolled into BSG. We're, um, seven episodes in, plus the miniseries.

This is damned good stuff. A few weak spots but I've learned it's never safe to judge a series on its early shows - my gawd, if B5 had been held up for judgement around episode 5-6, it would have been buried at sea in cement barrels.

There are some things that are getting under my skin, though...

1) I understand the steamy sex scenes are a hallmark. *Sigh*. *Yawn*. Enough already!

2) OTOH, if the actor playing Gaius gets to roll around with the blonde in every ep for four years, my only question is... did they have to pay him anything?

3) I am deeply irritated at the opening-credits bit of showing us a good 30 seconds of clips from the episode about to be seen. As someone who diligently avoids "Next week on..." teasers and tries to get to each episode of episodic stuff on DVD without reading the synopsis shoved at you along with the PLAY button... I find this somewhere between appalling and obnoxious. I have no idea what the makers were thinking.

4) Starbuck. Couldn't be more of an asshole with two brass clangers.

5) Edward James Olmos. *Wow.*

6) Ugly, messy, indeterminate, bothersome human interaction with dismal consequences. *Outstanding.*

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James Gifford wrote:
Okay, so we finally rolled into BSG. We're, um, seven episodes in, plus the miniseries.

This is damned good stuff. A few weak spots but I've learned it's never safe to judge a series on its early shows - my gawd, if B5 had been held up for judgement around episode 5-6, it would have been buried at sea in cement barrels.

There are some things that are getting under my skin, though...

1) I understand the steamy sex scenes are a hallmark. *Sigh*. *Yawn*. Enough already!

2) OTOH, if the actor playing Gaius gets to roll around with the blonde in every ep for four years, my only question is... did they have to pay him anything?

3) I am deeply irritated at the opening-credits bit of showing us a good 30 seconds of clips from the episode about to be seen. As someone who diligently avoids "Next week on..." teasers and tries to get to each episode of episodic stuff on DVD without reading the synopsis shoved at you along with the PLAY button... I find this somewhere between appalling and obnoxious. I have no idea what the makers were thinking.

4) Starbuck. Couldn't be more of an asshole with two brass clangers.

5) Edward James Olmos. *Wow.*

6) Ugly, messy, indeterminate, bothersome human interaction with dismal consequences. *Outstanding.*
I got disgusted with the humaniform cylons early on and switched off. Never did return to it.


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I got disgusted with the humaniform cylons early on and switched off. Never did return to it.

*Shrug*. I dunno. The notion of humans vs. big clonky chrome robots is pretty '70s. Especially post-Terminator. I don't think a sustainable show could have been built around such a concept. Even the original got into human collaborators and saboteurs, which frankly are less believable than the Cylons developing T-800s. It also gives some believability to the Cylon's motives (still a bit murky to me at this early point) - a machine civilization simply wouldn't care. The humaniforms have some greater idea about expansion, evolution, godhead, something that just wouldn't work coming from a toaster with one red eye.

I do find it hilarious that the female Cylons' spines glow. If the most delicate medical tests can't distinguish human from Cylon, exactly what's going on here? Or are 12-Colonies males such hot lovers that they can make their partners light up?

Or, gosharoonie, is it just a cheap trick to show the only full-body nudity SFC could get away with?


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James Gifford wrote:
The humaniforms have some greater idea about expansion, evolution, godhead, something that just wouldn't work coming from a toaster with one red eye.
I do find it hilarious that the female Cylons' spines glow. If the most delicate medical tests can't distinguish human from Cylon, exactly what's going on here? Or are 12-Colonies males such hot lovers that they can make their partners light up?

The last season does a decent job at differentiating between Centurion and skinjob motivations, but it seems like a big mess pretty much until you get through the whole show. The glowy-spine thing was just a neat effect that I don't think really ever went anywhere. I'm going by just having watched the eps once as they aired, so I could be wrong....


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I never watched it on cable, but enough people recommended it (my dental hygienist, fer chrissake!) that I bought the miniseries on DVD. Well, now we've seen everything up through the first four episodes of Season 3 and own all the rest, with Season 4.5 on pre-order at Amazon (due out mid August).

I *like* the sex and wish the show had been on HBO instead of SFC. I'm very impressed with the quality of the acting from relative unknowns, and Tricia Helfer (the blonde 6) is especially impressive, given the fact that she could have easily continued trading on looks alone (she used to be a model). They give Dean Stockwell some terrific lines and he does a notably great job. (He shows up late in Season 2, if memory serves.)

As stunning as Helfer is, I think my favorite female is Grace Park. I don't remember ever having seen her in anything else (nor had I seen Tricial Helfer elsewhere), and I think she's wonderful on many levels.

My single favorite shot, though, is one they repeat in every intro: Tricia Helfer in Gaius' house on Caprica during the invasion, her back to the floor to ceiling windows with legs spread, pushing Gaius down to the floor in front of her as the blast wave from a nuclear bomb comes crashing through the windows. Gets me every time.

The plot is complex enough that I miss significant pieces of it and need to go to the Battlestar Wiki to get a clue. In the process I end up finding out early who some of the other Cylons are, but it's worth it to me to be able to keep up with what's going on. Too bad you can't set a flag for which episode you're on when you log into the Battlestar Wiki so they block anything that would be a spoiler for you. That would be cool.

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My single favorite shot, though, is one they repeat in every intro: Tricia Helfer in Gaius' house on Caprica during the invasion, her back to the floor to ceiling windows with legs spread, pushing Gaius down to the floor in front of her as the blast wave from a nuclear bomb comes crashing through the windows. Gets me every time.

That is an outstanding shot on many levels. Me, I figure she's wearing her Playtex Armored 18-Hour Girdle. :P

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The plot is complex enough that I miss significant pieces of it and need to go to the Battlestar Wiki to get a clue. In the process I end up finding out early who some of the other Cylons are, but it's worth it to me to be able to keep up with what's going on. Too bad you can't set a flag for which episode you're on when you log into the Battlestar Wiki so they block anything that would be a spoiler for you. That would be cool.

That was a minor problem with B5 - the Lurker's Guide is well-constructed and each episode page only covers what is known up to that point. It will ask questions that are plainly answered just down the road, but never gives away the next plot development.

Unfortunately, both Carnivale and Sopranos suffered from massive spoileritis - you couldn't look up a character name without finding out that he killed Joe in Season 3 and was killed by Fred in Season 4. Huge, annoying PITA. I had several important revelations in Sopranos ruined by looking at the wrong page.

While I'm on this soap box, I wish they would outlaw those gdmd episode summaries on series DVDs. I really, really, really don't want to know the outline of the episode ahead of time, not even that "Fred gets a huge surprise from his wife" kind of teaser. I try to look away from the screen while fumbling for the Play button, but even a glimpse is enough to screw things up.

And as I said, I don't know who in the production team thought it was a good idea to include 20-30 seconds of clips from the episode in the opening credits, but I hate that even more.

At this point, I am only aware of the four Cylon models that have been exposed (Six, Aaron?, the scruffy guy and Valerii), plus a strong accidental hint that, um, someone mentioned above is actually a skinjob. I don't know any others and am going to have to avoid all info lookups to avoid having it spoiled. From what I've heard, the 12th model is a real kick in the head - now shhhh.


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James Gifford wrote:
While I'm on this soap box, I wish they would outlaw those gdmd episode summaries on series DVDs. I really, really, really don't want to know the outline of the episode ahead of time, not even that "Fred gets a huge surprise from his wife" kind of teaser. I try to look away from the screen while fumbling for the Play button, but even a glimpse is enough to screw things up.


It was the third season before I became aware that they had a "current episode" teaser. No kidding. This is what the 30-second advance button on TiVo is for. I routinely spaced past the "previously on BSG" segment and it took three years to realize that it was preceded by something else. Get thee a DVR.


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We have a DVR. So far, it's been used exclusively for Mad Men, the first show in decades to catch my realtime interest.

BSG just seems determined to give everything away - I think somewhere in the chain is someone who thinks the viewer is really, really stupid. So on the DVDs you have the synopsis at the play button, the "previously on" segment which I'm okay with and which we usually watched, even when we watched back to back episodes. Then there's that bedamned preview material in the opening credits sequence, which just baffles me.

I dunno. The few movies I've watched absolutely cold, not knowing anything but the title, are some of the ones that are the most vibrant in my recollection. I can't quite get the compunction to know the whole thing before you see it.


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