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Anyone in the user base a Watchmen fan? Won't bore even the off-topic crowd if not.

It's probably my most purely geeky fanboy interest, of more than 20 years' duration - I'm on my third copy of the hardcover collection and have a drawer full of interesting collectibles. Oh, and tix in hand for opening day. At 9 am. In IMAX.

You are all free to roll your eyes quietly and go join a discussion of importance. :D

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Just took it down from the shelf yesterday, and am beginning to re-read it for the first time in more than a decade.

The watchmaker thing in Heroes? That's in Watchmen.

The cape thing in The Incredibles? That's in Watchmen, too.

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I have no idea what Watchmen is and am not a comic book phanboy. But the movie has the most arresting trailer I have seen in years. I'll be there.


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beamjockey wrote:
The watchmaker thing in Heroes? That's in Watchmen.
The cape thing in The Incredibles? That's in Watchmen, too.

The "we're locking you up for their safety" thing in Batman Returns comes to mind. I've seen pretty obvious Watchmen riffs a lot of other places, too. It's phenomenally influential.

ADDENDUM: And, of course, the whole thing with heroes being outlawed in Incredibles. That was a Keene idea on Brad Bird's part...


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Peter Scott wrote:
I have no idea what Watchmen is and am not a comic book phanboy. But the movie has the most arresting trailer I have seen in years. I'll be there.

I would recommend it to you. It's not what you think. I had to be coerced at gunpoint (by a very, very smart guy) to read the stupid comic book... and it's not. It is one of the most compelling novels I've read in my life. If an art form needs a defining work to be valid, Watchmen alone validates the graphic novel as an art form. (Dark Knight Returns almost does it, and the two together make the form immortal.)

I have a fair grasp of the comic world and genres (for no particularly good reason and from no one source) but am manifestly not a comic or GN fan in general. I have sampled many others that just make me want to hurl (in either sense). Sturgeon's Law applies. But the best - maybe a half-dozen so far - are just staggeringly mind-blowingly good, revelations of form and content and concept. It helps that Alan Moore may be the best writer in the field and Dave Gibbons the finest, most meticulous illustrator (there is not an accidental or misplaced line in the whole book).

Read it. Hint: Read it verrrrry slowwwwly. There are three text pages in every panel. If you never read another GN or anything like, you'll still get a B in the course. Something that may help: Watchmen is absolutely independent and sui generis, with only the most tenuous ancestral threads and absolutely no possibility of a prequel, sequel, sidequel or any collateral work. Everything is between those two covers, so you don't need to be a comix geek to "get it."


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I thought the Philip Glass music used in the trailer (straight out of Koyaanisqatsi?) was dead-on perfect. I hope that's the music in the movie. Sometimes they pull a switcheroo and use completely different music in the trailer, e.g. using My Name Is Lincoln from The Island in the trailer but not the movie of Elizabeth.

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As you probably know, Dan, trailers are scored with whatever is at hand - which can be good, bad or utterly indifferent. There are many cases of trailers that look/sound great on their own but turn out to be minimovies of their own, crafted by some assistant director, bearing only the faintest relationship to the finished film.

Watchmen has its own score, as well as one pop tune (over the final credits as usual, I'm sure). Some earlier trailers used a song with a really interesting history - it was written for the end credits of the last Clooney Batman movie but not used. The lyrics are eerily appropriate to the trailer.

FWIW, I've been scrutinizing every scrap of film they've released so far, and Zack Snyder has been monumentally faithful to even the smallest details. I am looking forward to Friday morning in a way I haven't looked forward to anything in decades.


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I'm no comic book phan, and I loved the Watchman series when I first read it a few years ago. (My then-boyfriend, now husband insisted; he was right.) It's a subtle, complex, wonderful story, worthy of the attention of anybody who likes to read good stories. That should be everyone here, anyway. :-)

We're planning to go to the movie this weekend. I hear it's quite faithful to the books, which is A Good Thing in this case.

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I'm a huge fan of comics in general. I read Watchmen when it came out in 1986 and had to take a year to get the whole story, 1 month at a time over the year. I had to re-read it as each new book came out, and from a 17-year-old's perspective missed a lot of it, I'm sure.

I've got a trade edition around here somewhere. I was waiting to re-read until after I see the movie. We are attempting to go this weekend if the neighbors can babysit. It's had mixed reviews so far, but I haven't delved into too many reviews because so few reviewers know how to write without spoilers these days. Of course, I know the basic plot of this one already....


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Saw it at 9:00 a.m. this morning in IMAX. There are plenty of reviews around so I'll refrain for now, but I will have quite a few things to say later one.

All I can say is that the mainstream reviewers seem to be actively campaigning against it for no good reason except, perhaps, a reluctance to cheer anything so fanboy, and through sitting down for their screenings with utterly unrealistic expectations.

Short dual opinion, from one fanboy(tm) and one 99% newb: It's excellent, coherent, and a fantastic ride. I will still be picking up missed bits on my tenth viewing.

Ignore the reviewers, both ecstatic and doomcrying. Go see it.


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