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Author:  NickDoten [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Tim Hildebrandt Pencil Drawing

About 15 years ago, I purchased what was purported to be a Tim Hildebrandt (co-creater of the famous Star Wars poster) original pencil drawing. Supposedly it was drawn at a trade show in the early to mid 1970's. The image itself is of a viking type winged flying ship above an alien landscape. The drawing was inscribed "to dick" and signed by the artist. Was their a sci-fi/fantasy worldcon etc in Toronto during this time ? Supposedly this is when and where this was created. Got it cheap so if it's not authentic...... :) no big deal..... just wondering what I actually have here

Author:  beamjockey [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tim Hildebrandt Pencil Drawing

NickDoten wrote:
Was their a sci-fi/fantasy worldcon etc in Toronto during this time ? Supposedly this is when and where this was created. Got it cheap so if it's not authentic...... :) no big deal..... just wondering what I actually have here

Yeah, Torcon 2 was held in 1973, the 31st Worldcon.

Hard to believe there's much traffic in counterfeit Tim Hildebrandt pencil drawings. There's every reason to believe it's authentic.

You could google up "Tim Hildebrandt" and "drawing" to convince yourself that the style and signature looks right. "Fanzine" might also be a helpful term-- your description sounds like it might have been intended for a fanzine illo.

Might also be interesting to check completed auctions on Ebay to see whether there has been much recent traffic in drawings like this, even if you have no intention of selling it.

Author:  NickDoten [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tim Hildebrandt Pencil Drawing

Thanks for the info Bill ! The drawing style and subject matter closely resembles known pieces by the Hildebrandt Brothers- while my demise is not eminent, i wanted my sons/heirs to know what they're holding and some basic info about it. Your Torcon 2 info allows me to date this drawing. Wow ! it's almost 40 years old.

It's value? Well, like anything, it's worth what someone will pay for it...... Since Tim Hildebrandt passed on a few years back, I imagine it's value jumped beyond the $20 I paid for it in 2000. I'll certainly reference Ebay etc and hopefully arrive at an approximate value for this unique piece of art. I'd hazard perhaps a couple hundred bucks- I may be wrong - wouldn't be the first time ;)

An interesting sidebar (while it doesn't apply to my particular work) is that Tim and Greg Hildebrandt collaborated on large pieces with one brothers style indistinguishable from the other's ! I find this amazing ! Not even a small variance between them. Their "hands" were identical. BTW Greg and Tim were twin brothers :)

Again, Thanks for the info Bill !

Author:  JamesGifford [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tim Hildebrandt Pencil Drawing

You might be able to get it authenticated in some way; it would be worth a little time and effort and enhance the value (if and when).

A few years back I picked up a large pencil work by Chuck Jones, a rendering of the classic Bugs and Daffy at the piano. I got it relatively cheap because it had no good authentication or provenance, except that the seller thought it had been used for a magazine cover.

Item in hand, I did a little research and found the magazine (actually a tabloid newspaper) that had been published for a while by Jim Steranko. Not only did the cover provide authentication, but an inside blurb described the why and wherefore, and a response from Steranko (a nice bit in itself) sealed the deal. I now have it framed with a nearly identical sericel of the same scene, and the magazine is framed separately. That bit of legwork almost certainly increased the potential sales value of the item - not that I'd sell a Chuck Jones original while I'm still around to admire it. :)

Author:  NickDoten [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tim Hildebrandt Pencil Drawing

a brief google search turned up many tim hildebrandt autographs which are very similar to the one on my drawing- appears i have an authentic pencil drawing here..... time to visit ebay and see what the market value is :) am attaching a note to my heirs on the back of the frame with the info i find

Author:  NickDoten [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tim Hildebrandt Pencil Drawing

and a further search reveals that similar size (11x17) drawings are going for $1-5K. mine would tend towards the lower end methinks, still ............ :)

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