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Latest blog post:

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Tuesday, February 28th, 2012...

Today has been a slow morning while waiting for the last of the hard copy text proofs to be delivered.
I received an automated call from FedEx telling me it would be here by 10:30 and to make sure someone would be here to sign for it, unless I completely spaced and they were telling me it would be here on Wednesday, but I am pretty sure the automated lady voice said Tuesday. Either way it is noon here in Houston and it still isn't here. There was one false alarm a couple of minutes ago, but it was just the regular mail, with a package that did not require a signature, and was not for me, but that our lovely mail deliverer always rings the bell when something will not fit in the box.

Other than the above, we are quite close to beginning actual printing. Most of the other texts are in their final form and through Transcontinental's pre-press department, which shines them up even more than when Windhaven sent them in before hitting the presses. Specifically as follows:

TEXT
Letters 3 - good to go
Tramp Royale - good to go (hard proof reviewed for surprise picture)
Screenwriting 1 - this is the one I am waiting for
Screenwriting 2 - good to go
Requiem - good to go

COVER
Letters 3 - ready for hard proof (this one may cause trouble, I already redesigned it once)
Tramp Royale - ready for hard proof (also may cause trouble, but not as much)
Screenwritting 1 - ready for hard proof

Screenwritting 2 - ready for hard proof
Requiem - ready for hard proof

Usually we do not do hard proofs and have stuck with soft proofs, but given the trouble with JWC's face in the last set (and RAH's as well, but which wasn't pointed out to me) and the time and money spent on redoing all the covers for L1 we are taking extra precautions with the stamping. Also there are more graphics and pictures in these last ones and some of them didn't measure up to Trans' standards and had to be altered (since we had to open them all up I also cleaned a lot of them up).

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The latest blog post, dated Monday 3/19, talks mostly about cover icon stamping woes with pictures I can't include here, so I won't quote the post, except for this passage of text at the end:

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This is the last stage of the getting everything printed so they can be bound and shipped. As far as I know the interiors are already printing.

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The latest blog post, dated May 17:

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As it was in the beginning...

To all Virginia Edition subscribers, prospectives, and general belligerents, It gives me great pleasure to announce that the final volumes of the Virginia Edition have finished printing and arrived at the fulfillment center to be shipped to customers over the next week. We will be making a formal announcement on May 25th at the National Space Society's 30th International Space Development Conference. For those that don't know, the National Space Society was formed from a merger of the National Space Institute and the L5 Society. Mr. Heinlein was director of the L5 society for a decade prior to the merger and so we are especially excited to be able to announce his complete works at ISDC. That has been a long project--longer than we anticipated though I casually note that we are still ahead of the original project's completion date--and rather than belabor the point and bore us all to death, I will simply say my thank you's and be done. Thank you to Bill Patterson and Robert James for helping with volume notes and correspondence. Thanks as well to Robert Gorsch, David Wright, Sr., Geo Rule, and Perry Chapedelaine for their help with the Heinlein-Campbell correspondence. Thank you to Windhaven Press for their editorial and layout work in the face of remarkable hardship. Thank you to the Robert A. and Virginia Heinlein Prize Trust for supporting this project and for vigorously supporting Robert and Virginia's vision of humanity's future in space. And, of course, thank you to all of our subscribers who bore with us over the last several years with remarkably good grace. Your support and kind words have made this experience enormously more bearable than otherwise. Never forget to pay it forward, Simon Jester

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For what it's worth, I received the last shipment yesterday. Now to find time to read the parts I haven't already read in other forums. :)

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So... eight years, start to finish? Or did I drop a circumsolar orbit or two?


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Given the size of the program, and the economies of scale involved in the people actually working on it, I don't think eight years is that much out of line.

Where are the equivalents of The Virginia Edition for the other two of the Big Three, Asimov and Clarke [or any other two that you might nominate in their places]?

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Closer to seven years, if you date the project from the Locus Online announcement in April 2005. The originally announced one-volume-per-month schedule would have resulted in a complete series by fall 2009, more or less, if Meisha Merlin had been competent (or if the Heinlein Prize Trust had contracted with a competent publisher in the first place).

The whole effort will have been worth it if, and only if, the edition becomes available in e-book format, in separate volumes. Which I think it will be, eventually: The number of potential buyers of complete $1500 sets (i.e., people who haven't already subscribed) will dwindle to zero, if it hasn't already; X number of printed sets will remain unsold;* and then there'll be no further incentive to release the edition only to people who've got the $1500.

Some aspects of the project will always be enigmatic, such as the decision to lead off with I Will Fear No Evil and later, after the restart of the project, an absurd fixation on the design and production of the pictorial cover stamping for each volume - a feature that need not have been included in the first place and caused a number of production delays (according to the VE Publishing Co. blog).

*Even Meisha Merlin knew enough to pay its printer to produce only 500 copies of each of its six volumes, and I assume VEPC did likewise, in both cases irrespective of the maximum number advertised - 5000 copies for MM, 2000 copies for VEPC.


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JJGarsch wrote:
The whole effort will have been worth it if, and only if, the edition becomes available in e-book format, in separate volumes.

Don't hold your breath. A major reason for all the circular problems and erratic[-seeming] decisions was that the VE had to go around existing and future publishing agreements by being a "special, limited-issue" edition that absolutely, no way, won't-happen would not interfere with mass market editions. Even then, I heard rumblings that the traditional publishers were unhappy and may have been less interested in certain renewals and properties as a result.

So issuing the complete works in any cheap edition would mean, pretty much, the end of mass market publishing of Heinlein. The cascading results of that are left as an exercise to the e-reader.

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Given the size of the program, and the economies of scale involved in the people actually working on it, I don't think eight years is that much out of line.

OJ, the publicly-known record of clusterforks the VE hit speaks for itself. The project could have been completed, without undue haste and with time for adjustments, within four years.


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Post Re: SPLIT THREAD: The Virginia Edition etc.
James - thanks for your insight into these problems; at my age I'll likely never become an e-reader myself. Seems like such a waste, though, for only a few hundred people to see the results of the VE effort (although, of course, all of the non-fiction material such as letters can be viewed as part of the online Archives).

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I just now noticed in a different forum, in the "introduce yourself" thread, someone who has purchased the entire VE and writes as follows:

"I was lucky not to have to wait seven years. I ordered on the spot and VE #285 was on my bookshelf on June 10th."

So that would seem to be the total number of subscriptions (or now, complete sets) of the VE sold since 2005 when the Meisha Merlin phase of the effort began: Two hundred eighty-five.


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JJGarsch wrote:
So that would seem to be the total number of subscriptions (or now, complete sets) of the VE sold since 2005 when the Meisha Merlin phase of the effort began: Two hundred eighty-five.

It is possible that the sets are being sold and shipped in other than strict numeric order, but... you are probably right.

There's a fine master's thesis in Communications or some related field on the VE debacle. Maybe more than one. IMHO, the mighty belly flop was due to concerted multiparty effort. Anything less would have resulted in success.

But I've said enough on this sad and shopworn topic. Glad to see the collections in at least a few desiring hands.


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