View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:30 pm



Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Where's Waldo('s Ending)? 
Author Message
Heinlein Nexus
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am
Posts: 2233
Location: Pacific NorthWest
Post Where's Waldo('s Ending)?
Just finished Waldo (inseparable from Magic, Inc., of course, for no literary reason I can discern). The ending leaves a number of questions unanswered in a way that doesn't seem deliberate (i.e., there doesn't appear to be a payoff from leaving the questions out there).

Principally I am thinking about the nature of the Other World. Power is being sucked out of it; do the inhabitants of that world notice? Do they mind? What are the consequences for their universe? These seem like questions that the story was designed to answer but doesn't, as though a word limit had been reached.

I believe there have been several other stories and Star Trek episodes that take the same premise and provide answers to the questions.


Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:29 pm
Profile WWW
NitroForum Oldster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:57 am
Posts: 669
Location: DC Metro
Post Re: Where's Waldo('s Ending)?
It sounds like the ultimate deus ex machina ending. It's been a long time since I read that story, mostly because I hate fantasy stories. Maybe I'll go back and take a look at it - it's not very long.

_________________
"Being right too soon is socially unacceptable." - Heinlein, Expanded Universe


Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:39 am
Profile WWW
Centennial Attendee

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:57 am
Posts: 134
Post Re: Where's Waldo('s Ending)?
It's been a while since I read it, but I thought I recalled Waldo sitting down to work out the details of the Other World (size-wise, at least), as if he could create it by defining it. Although I don't recall it being stated, that could allow for defining it in a way that caused no harm to any inhabitants it had (if his definition allowed for inhabitants).
I later took this as a forshadowing of the World as Myth concept. When people stopped believing in their power system, it stopped working. Gramps Schnieder (sp ?) helped them believe in something else so strongly that the 'something else' began to work. Then Waldo defined the details in such as way as to cement his control of the new system.
That would make Waldo a Fabulist as well as an engineer, dancer, inventor, etc.
However, I might have mixed details from one of those Star Trek episodes you mentioned with the Heinlein story. It's easy to look back and see what wasn't there then.

_________________
"There are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth." (Robert Evans)


Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:38 pm
Profile
PITA Bred
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm
Posts: 2402
Location: The Quiet Earth
Post Re: Where's Waldo('s Ending)?
Peter Scott wrote:
JPrincipally I am thinking about the nature of the Other World. Power is being sucked out of it; do the inhabitants of that world notice? Do they mind? What are the consequences for their universe? These seem like questions that the story was designed to answer but doesn't, as though a word limit had been reached.

It's an odd story in many ways - very '30s gosh-wow and Gernsbackian in places, and IMHO incompletely worked out.

For your answers, go (re)read Asimov's The Gods Themselves, which I believe must be directly influenced by Waldo.

_________________
"Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders." - Luther
In the end, I found Heinlein is finite. Thus, finite analysis is needed.


Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:20 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 4 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware for PTF