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Author:  hwhall [ Wed May 20, 2009 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Heinlein Society

What is up with the HS? Are they doing anything or are they defunct? I had looked them up to see if it was worth joining but I can't see what I would be joining, nothing seems to be going on. The last News item was 2004, last newsletter 2 years ago, and Recent Updates and Additions last change is dated 2 years ago. Then I saw threads here that mentioned how they weren't involved with his Centennial. I haven't figured out what their purpose is or if they have anything going on. Anyone here know what the score is?

Author:  JamesGifford [ Wed May 20, 2009 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

In very short, THS may technically still be in existence but has been in a deep coma for over two years.

There is little expectation that they will be revived any time soon, nor that there is much rhyme or reason to consider their revival. Despite their proud official status and launch with a good helping of the community's crown jewels and best wishes, they accomplished little in their years beyond squandering the received assets and goodwill. There are also questions about what all those years of dues paid by well-intentioned members were put toward.

(This is not in any way to belittle the individuals who accomplished much, usually in spite of all of the "help" THS could throw at them.)

Like all dogs, they're best left sleeping. Shhh.

Note: Substantial assets and community support await any serious new Heinlein-centric organization; inquiries invited.

Author:  JackKelly [ Wed May 20, 2009 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

hwhall wrote:
What is up with the HS? Are they doing anything or are they defunct? I had looked them up to see if it was worth joining but I can't see what I would be joining, nothing seems to be going on. The last News item was 2004, last newsletter 2 years ago, and Recent Updates and Additions last change is dated 2 years ago. Then I saw threads here that mentioned how they weren't involved with his Centennial. I haven't figured out what their purpose is or if they have anything going on. Anyone here know what the score is?


I and my son were members for several years. When I received the latest dues notice a month or so ago, I considered not responding but in the end I could not help myself and sent a reply asking why I should continue my membership since the society has been dormant for some time. I received a very indignant response from the Secretary claiming that "great things" were going on "in the background" and why was I not contributing? I replied asking what would they like me to do (other than continuing to throw my money down a black hole) and am still awaiting a response. They are dead, sorry to say.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Wed May 20, 2009 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

Jack Kelly wrote:
When I received the latest dues notice a month or so ago, I considered not responding but in the end I could not help myself and sent a reply asking why I should continue my membership since the society has been dormant for some time. I received a very indignant response from the Secretary...

This is at least the second time that the first word out of them in many months or years is a demand for dues, accompanied by much snottiness.

The first time, it was a DEMAND for past-due dues that had never been politely requested, some to people who had attempted to sign up but failed to complete the bollixed online registration form.

Frankly, I think everyone who's paid dues should line up and demand an accounting from the beginning - via class action, if necessary.

Author:  JackKelly [ Wed May 20, 2009 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

James Gifford wrote:
Frankly, I think everyone who's paid dues should line up and demand an accounting from the beginning - via class action, if necessary.


If I remember correctly, back when Bill was in charge, they released annual financial statements to members. But, since Captain Queeg took over, transparency has been somewhat lacking. It's not worth my time to pursue it, but if someone else want to start an action, I may join.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Wed May 20, 2009 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

Jack Kelly wrote:
It's not worth my time to pursue it, but if someone else want to start an action, I may join.

Well, not me, I've done my time. 'Sides, I never paid any dues. (Not in cash, anyway.)

It occurs to me that the guy who underwrote their mighty short story contest might be interested in some accounting. But even those $100 or so into dues deserve some answers.

Author:  hwhall [ Thu May 21, 2009 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

Well, I was feeling guilty recenty about missing Heinlein's centennial and all, and thought they might be someplace to do something in penance. Guess not. I've been reading Heinlein since I was a kid but only in the last year became much interested in his personal life. I even lived in Colo Springs a long time before I realized that his old homestead still existed. Now I wish I could find more pictures of the old place and hope some time to visit the grounds. Not having an honest interest or ability to buy the estate today, I don't know how that opportunity may present itself.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Thu May 21, 2009 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

hwhall wrote:
Well, I was feeling guilty recenty about missing Heinlein's centennial

You didn't miss it. Were you or were you not present, alive and conscious on 7 July 2007? You were? Okay, you were here for Heinlein's Centennial.

:)

Seriously, only 7-800 folks made it to KC for the event. We aren't under any illusion that that was all the fans Heinlein had - so the virtualness of the event extends to anyone who remembered the day, then or now.

Author:  PeterScott [ Sun May 24, 2009 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

hwhall wrote:
Well, I was feeling guilty recenty about missing Heinlein's centennial and all, and thought they might be someplace to do something in penance. Guess not.


You're not under the impression that THS had anything to do with the Kansas City event, are you?

Author:  BillPatterson [ Sun May 24, 2009 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heinlein Society

Peter Scott wrote:
hwhall wrote:
Well, I was feeling guilty recenty about missing Heinlein's centennial and all, and thought they might be someplace to do something in penance. Guess not.


You're not under the impression that THS had anything to do with the Kansas City event, are you?

Tread lightly there, friend!

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