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Post Bug Hunt at Outpost Seven
I'm the person responsible for the note on ... oh, *one* of the Wikipedia articles noting that the original ST movie didn't actually start life as a Heinlein adaptation... but I *cannot* locate the magazine article that asserts that it was actually titled as this thread to cite it.

I *think* it was in American Cinematographer, since I don't read Cinefantastique, but I suppose it could have been in sister pub Femme Fatales. :-}

Does anyone else know where that particular reference exists? They're quoting either Verhoeven or Esterhasz, but again I don't know which.


Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:00 pm
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I've never heard that rumor.

I do know that "I, Robot" was well into development before the Asimov title and minor bits were grafted on.

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The article I remember was quite explicit.

In some pre-production meeting, someone new to the project said something like "this is an awful lot like that Heinlein book"

"Huh?"

"Yeah, _Starship Troopers_. I wonder if anyone has an option on it?"


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Baylink wrote:
The article I remember was quite explicit.

In some pre-production meeting, someone new to the project said something like "this is an awful lot like that Heinlein book"

"Huh?"

"Yeah, _Starship Troopers_. I wonder if anyone has an option on it?"

Sure wish that 'someone' had missed the meeting.

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Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:24 pm
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Post Re: Bug Hunt at Outpost Seven
freesharon wrote:
Baylink wrote:
The article I remember was quite explicit.

In some pre-production meeting, someone new to the project said something like "this is an awful lot like that Heinlein book"

"Huh?"

"Yeah, _Starship Troopers_. I wonder if anyone has an option on it?"

Sure wish that 'someone' had missed the meeting.

I heard it the other way around -- Sony already had the option and their development people said, sure we'll let Verhoeven do his WWII movie if he uses this property.


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Ok, Bill... but can you *source* it? :-)


Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:05 am
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Baylink wrote:
Ok, Bill... but can you *source* it? :-)
We don't need no steenkeen -- no, wait, wrong movie.

No, I cannot -- it was buzz heard shortly after it was released and might have come from any of fifty non-industry or industry sources. However, I most bodaciously doubt that anybody said "hey, you know this is like that Heinlein book..." For the simple reason that the materials Verhoeven is known to have come to the project with are NOT like that Heinlein book and the miscegenation that took place in ordeer to make the movie really do violence to that Heinlein book -- and of course, that presupposed that someone in the development process of a major movie studio can and does *read.* The improbabilities mount to dizzying heights...


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Post Re: Bug Hunt at Outpost Seven
I've heard - and have as many citations as you do, Bill - that Verhoover read only the back cover blurb and - later - the first chapter. Nothing more.


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And yet, Bill, I'm 100% certain I read it in a magazine article on actual paper. I guess I'm going to have to go find indexes for AC and the CF mags.


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Suggestion: Ask in a film-related forum. I suggest Badmovies.org for a start.


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