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"John Galt" is referred to metaphorically in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Does Heinlein explicitly refer to Ayn Rand anywhere else in his fiction?

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This question was asked elsewhere, and the consensus was No. Heinlein did mention Rand in the Schulman interview:
"I would say that my position is not too far from that of Ayn Rand's; that I would like to see government reduced to no more than internal police and courts, external armed forces — with the other matters handled otherwise. I'm sick of the way the government sticks its nose into everything, now."

Heinlein calls himself an individualist, and remarked, "Ayn Rand is a bloody socialist compared to me." I think he was joking; we both laughed.

None of this rules out more obscure references, of course, such as minor Rand characters showing up by name or anagram, but Heinlein appears not to have been besotted enough by Rand to want to do so.

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Post Re: Heinlein and Rand
BillMullins wrote:
"John Galt" is referred to metaphorically in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Does Heinlein explicitly refer to Ayn Rand anywhere else in his fiction?

Also in TMIAHM there is mention of "Randites." Prof says he could "get along with a Randite," or something like that.

In v. 1 of Bill Patterson's RAH biography (I suppose around here I could just say "the biography" but don't want to assume too much), there is brief mention that Heinlein considered writing something like The Fountainhead, but instead of architecture dealing with "the fine arts."

One more (distant) connection, as I noted elsewhere on this forum:

I have been reading Anne C. Heller's excellent biography Ayn Rand and the World She Made. At p. 183 it states that Thaddeus Ashby, who lived with Rand and her husband at their "ranch" in Chatsworth, California in 1944-5, drifted away from her and: "During the 1950s and 60s he worked for tiny libertarian magazines and became a devotee of Robert Heinlein, as well as the effects of magic mushrooms."

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Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:51 pm
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