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Who owns the rights to the Heinlein books?
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Author:  JJGarsch [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:37 am ]
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The online Heinlein Archives that became active in 2007 has some (most?) of the VE's previously unpublished content available in PDF form for a nominal fee. Naturally the Archives also includes a great deal not included in the VE, such as a longer Citizen of the Galaxy manuscript showing Heinlein's markups to bring it down to published length.

Author:  BobCarver [ Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:59 am ]
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The Archive has the potential to be a great resource, but for me, the watermark makes most of the material unreadable. Perhaps some enterprising soul will remove the watermarks someday and republish the material in Kindle format.

Author:  vranger [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:48 pm ]
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The easiest and almost always least expensive place to get out of print hardbacks and paperbacks are used copies sold by Amazon resellers. You can virtually always get copies in excellent shape for much less than the cost of buying a new paperback. I've personally switched to Kindle editions (Kindle is Amazon's ereader for anyone who has been in a coma for the last three or four years LOL). I've gotten to the point where I detest having to read a book on paper anymore.

Author:  BillMullins [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:10 am ]
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Possible Pirated Editions of Heinlein Books???

After reading this account by Jerry Pournelle of what appears to be someone issuing print-on-demand books of various science fiction authors without authorization, I was able to find some of RAH's work issued by Hephaestus:

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I gather these are compilations of wikipedia articles, but they give the impression that they are compilations of actual RAH stories. Either way, it's wrong.

Looks like Bill Higgins has written about this type of rip-off.

Author:  RobertPearson [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:07 pm ]
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BillMullins wrote:
After reading this account by Jerry Pournelle of what appears to be someone issuing print-on-demand books of various science fiction authors without authorization, I was able to find some of RAH's work issued by Hephaestus:


Note to all--I read Pournelle's http://jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/ as well and highly recommend it to anyone who hangs around here...

As a bibliophile, the shennanigans of this "publisher" as described make me want to find the responsible parties and kick their arses up around their shoulder blades before applying a pair of cement overhsoes and dropping them in the Marianas trench. If I'm in a good mood that day.

Author:  LilLeaguer [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:58 pm ]
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John Scalzi (President, Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America) is also tracking the issue of Wikipedia compilations. He mentions Fonte Wikipedia and Books LLC as questionable publishers.

Author:  beamjockey [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:36 pm ]
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BillMullins wrote:
Possible Pirated Editions of Heinlein Books???

I gather these are compilations of wikipedia articles, but they give the impression that they are compilations of actual RAH stories. Either way, it's wrong.

Looks like Bill Higgins has written about this type of rip-off.
Yes. Looks like these "publishers" have scripts that follow Wikipedia's category tags, let's say "Illinois Physicists." They scoop up all the articles in that category and assemble a file that can produce a print-on-demand book, which they imaginatively call Illinois Physicists. They assign it an ISBN they've purchased and inform Amazon or other online retailers that they have a "book" for sale. Then they wait for someone searching for books on the topic who is also gullible enough to fall into their trap.

I am sure the robots at Hephaestus Books deliver a neatly printed book filled with Wikipedia articles or other free content, perfectly legal for the publisher to reproduce.

In the case at hand, the category is something like "Short Stories by Robert Heinlein," full of articles about short stories by Robert Heinlein, which a victim might purchase thinking he is getting, well, some short stories by Robert Heinlein.

I am not aware that any copyright violations have occurred in these scams. (I also haven't checked developments in the past few days-- I was attentive to the problem last week.) I don't think these miscreants are publishing Heinlein's fiction, or Pournelle's, or C.J. Cherryh's (but I would like to hear about it if you learn otherwise).

If these practices are to be stopped or slowed down, it's probably up to Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and other online retailers. One suggestion I've seen is that retailers could limit the number of new books a publisher could add per day. The scheme won't work if the scammers can't add thousands of titles at a time to their "catalogues." Anyone know of other good countermeasures?

A completely different abuse of automation and print-on-demand technology is represented by the entertainingly horrifying case of The Worst Excuse for a Physics Book I've Ever Seen. Take a look.

Author:  JimC22 [ Fri May 30, 2014 4:36 pm ]
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The library foundation also owns several of the copyrights.

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