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Author:  beamjockey [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:16 pm ]
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The Tor.com blog-like magazine-thing is conducting a symposium about Heinlein to coincide with Tor's release of Bill's book.

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/robert-a-heinlein-the-torcom-blog-symposium#more

Editor Patrick Nielsen Hayden writes, regarding the publication of Learning Curve:
Quote:
In commemoration of this, we’ve convened a kind of online panel discussion of Heinlein and of the biography—of his work, his methods, and his legacy, and of what light the biography sheds on all of those.

Kicking things off will be longtime fan, Heinlein reader, and tech-industry journalist Mitch Wagner, followed by award-winning novelist (Tooth and Claw; Farthing) and prolific Tor.com blogger Jo Walton. Over the next several days, possibly as soon as today, we’ll also be hearing from John Scalzi (author of Old Man’s War and several other SF novels), Pamela Dean (author of Tam Lin and the Secret Country trilogy, and several other works of fantasy), Charles Stross (author of Halting State, the Merchant Princes series, and the Laundry series), and Sarah Hoyt (author of Ill Met by Moonlight, Death of a Musketeer, Draw One in the Dark, and many other works of SF, fantasy, and historical romance).

All of our panelists are people who’ve been reading and thinking about Heinlein for a long time, and all of them have read Patterson’s book in advance of its publication. Once they all get past their initial statements, we hope to see them start batting notions back and forth between one another. And if you want to nudge the discussion in a direction that particularly interests you, don’t be shy—post in the comment section. We’ll be paying attention.

Should be interesting.

Bill Higgins

Author:  whpattersonjr [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:17 pm ]
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I'm enjoying it so far

Author:  RobertJames [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:54 pm ]
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I am as well, although there have been a few remarkably mistaken posts.

Author:  audrey [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:50 pm ]
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Is there more to it than what is on the first post?

Author:  beamjockey [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:19 pm ]
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audrey wrote:
Is there more to it than what is on the first post?


There's a lot to it.

Start at Tor.com. Scroll down to see various postings in reverse temporal order, in the bloggish custom. There are postings on many topics, but some of them are about Heinlein. Hit "read more" links when you wish.

The correspondents to look for are those mentioned in Patrick Nielsen Hayden's posting above.

Some links:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/robert-a-heinlein-a-real-life-forrest-gump
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/qout-far-and-onward-yetq-heinleins-future-history-stories-of-the-thirties-and-forties
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/heinlein-strangely-human
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/coming-home
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/tomorrow-through-the-past
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/patterson-heinlein-biography-not-to-be-trusted-on-details
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/through-a-backward-telescope-heinleins-context
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/the-right-kind-of-girl
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/heinlein-forward-looking-diversity-advocate-or-sexist-bigot-yes

There will be more.

Bill Higgins

Author:  Guest [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:45 am ]
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beamjockey wrote:

I think I've missed some of those. The comment section of Jo Walton's posts turned remarkably irritating, but they did turn up a couple of errors to be fixed. Rita Bottoms assured me I would open the book when I first got it and the first page I saw would contain a giant whopper. Didn't happen quite that way, but there were a couple of embarrassing errors that did get talked about.

Author:  RobertJames [ Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:48 pm ]
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Yes, there were.

There were also claimed errors that simply...weren't. Walton was raising a massive red flag and suggesting that a decade's worth of work and intensely footnoted research was chock full of errors.

It was, to say the least, injurious. It was, to say the most, libelous.

I'm afraid I flew to the defense of my friend, and should have probably slowed myself down after the initial response, and taken longer to explore the boy king comment I found.

I have no problem with negative reviews; I just find it infuriating when people haven't bothered to actually read the book carefully (Critic's Room, anyone?). But overall, the blogs have been interesting.

Author:  BillPatterson [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:17 am ]
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RobertJames wrote:
Yes, there were.

There were also claimed errors that simply...weren't. Walton was raising a massive red flag and suggesting that a decade's worth of work and intensely footnoted research was chock full of errors.

It was, to say the least, injurious. It was, to say the most, libelous.

I'm afraid I flew to the defense of my friend, and should have probably slowed myself down after the initial response, and taken longer to explore the boy king comment I found.

I have no problem with negative reviews; I just find it infuriating when people haven't bothered to actually read the book carefully (Critic's Room, anyone?). But overall, the blogs have been interesting.

If the expression was found in an authoritative biography, then it's sufficient for the purpose. It was a pettifogging objection in the first place.

That thread was wildly irresponsible of Jo Walton. This is the kind of thing that should have been privately communicated to the author, particularly before starting a public thread titled "unreliable" of a colleague's book before it even comes out. Betrays a want of common sense and manners fairly equally.

For my money Jo Walton's comments were not the most destructive or dumb of the entire thread.

Author:  BillMullins [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:55 am ]
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The hits just keep on comin' . . .

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/heinleins-contradictory-views-on-race
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/heinlein-and-the-saturday-evening-post
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/some-responses-to-the-opening-posts-of-the-heinlein-discussion
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/the-customs-of-his-tribe

Keep checking the comments in the older threads -- the discussions continue in, uh, interesting ways.

Author:  JackKelly [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:50 am ]
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beamjockey wrote:
The Tor.com blog-like magazine-thing is conducting a symposium about Heinlein to coincide with Tor's release of Bill's book.

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/08/robert-a-heinlein-the-torcom-blog-symposium#more...Bill Higgins


Damn you for posting the link to this. I can't stop reading it and I have work to do! ;)

I wish some of these folks would find their way here.

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