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What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie
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Author:  antonio4231 [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

After seeing Avatar, and some of the powered armor they used, it makes me long for a Starship Troopers movie that is more faithful to the source material. Wouldn't it be great to see the mobile infantry do a space drop? Heck wouldn't it be great just to see powered armor, in ST. I'm afraid that there is no way the title "Starship Trooper" can ever be used again, without it being associated with the Paul Veerhoven pile of feces. To be fair the movie wasn't the worst I've seen, just that it wasn't anything close to the novel. :evil: Oh well, I have given up on Hollywood's interpretations of science fiction novels. I understand that movies are made for the masses, not just for the literary fans. ( After I typed the above rant, I realized that last summers Star Trek movie wasn't half bad and the Trekkers generally approved along with all the new fans, so maybe there is hope after all.) Anthony

Author:  JamesGifford [ Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

antonio4231 wrote:
(After I typed the above rant, I realized that last summers Star Trek movie wasn't half bad and the Trekkers generally approved along with all the new fans, so maybe there is hope after all.)

You slid over a critical difference. Avatar and Star Trek were created for the visual medium, with the actual story etc. trimmed to fit screen dimensions. There is nothing significant lost or changed, even in the reworking of the latter from one version to another.

Most books need severe lopping to fit.

ST is a universe of thought barely contained by its slender covers.

Author:  holmesiv [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

The best CGI is CGI you hardly even notice.
Stranger in a Strange Land would be one movie that you'd need hardly any CGI to tell: but there would be a challenge in doing a book so full of ideas.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

holmesiv wrote:
The best CGI is CGI you hardly even notice.
Stranger in a Strange Land would be one movie that you'd need hardly any CGI to tell: but there would be a challenge in doing a book so full of ideas.

Stranger would require quite a bit of CGI... but nearly all of it would be the sort that's invisibly blended and not noticeable in its own right. It would go into Mike and things around him, making his casual "miracles" seamless and making him properly otherworldly. But you're right, it would not (and should not) be a 2012-like Computerized Garbage Inundation.

Author:  PeterScott [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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More to the point is that the patterns of thought in society that Stranger appealed to have swung just about 180 degrees away from where they were in 1961. It is now a book either very ahead of or very behind its time. A movie that was in any way faithful would simply not connect with just about everyone. Sigh.

Author:  DanHenderson [ Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

The Verhoven steaming pile of groat clusters finally gets the treatment it so richly deserves: RiffTrax (the Mystery Science Theater 3000 guys). One night only, August 15, in theaters. Click the links for US showing info and tickets, or Canadian showing info and tickets. Be there or be square!

Author:  PeterScott [ Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

Playing in my town August 15. I do think I may go.

Author:  JackKelly [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

My fiancé, who accompanied me to Butler, and is now reading Stranger, asked me a while back to name some memorable Heinlein books to see if she recognized them. When I got to ST, she exclaimed, "Oh, I loved that movie!!" Groan. :roll:

Seeing the delight on her face, I didn't have the heart.

Author:  DanHenderson [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

JackKelly wrote:
My fiancé, who accompanied me to Butler, and is now reading Stranger, asked me a while back to name some memorable Heinlein books to see if she recognized them. When I got to ST, she exclaimed, "Oh, I loved that movie!!" Groan. :roll:

Well, I *was* going to congratulate you on your engagement, but I see some fundamental incompatibilities you two are going to have to negotiate! :P Seeing her picture on Facebook, though, I can easily understand at least part of what draws you to her. Best wishes for a long and happy life together!

Author:  JackKelly [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What could have been, Starship Troopers the movie

Dan, thank you very much. She's awesome. Stranger is the perfect first exposure to the RAH written word for her. She's digging it.

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