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As long as the scraps from the proverbial "cutting room floor" are preserved, there are always endless opportunities for alternate releases, since directors almost always shoot many more hours of footage than appears in the threater. Before the advent of home video, there was never much of a market for such product.

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I saw it wed. afternoon, sold out show. Be sure to see in 3-D as I beleive that is where it shines. It was my first 3-D film, since a truly horrendous "Metalstorm" in the 80's. I couldn't believe how the 3-D has improved. The movie was visually stunning. As far as the story was concerned, I found the plot to be very derivitive and predictable. The only truly inovative element in the movie, was the neural connection between the Na'vi and the animals of the planet. A feature that I have encountered in a few books, but never encountered on screen. I'm going to give it a thumbs up for the CGI and 3-D and thumbs down for the plot. Still go and see it if your a geek like me. ;)


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I saw it last night in 3D IMAX. Enjoyed the hell out of it. My son, the artistic one, spent the entire drive home explaining to me the technical aspects of the film. I feel really old.

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antonio4231 wrote:
It was my first 3-D film, since a truly horrendous "Metalstorm" in the 80's. I couldn't believe how the 3-D has improved.

You're really comparing apples to horse turds here. Not only was "Metalstorm" (oh, let's title it in full for effect: "Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared El-Syn") an absymal movie on any level, it used what is probably the very worst 3D technology every devised. It was a split-frame effect that placed both view angles on one 35mm frame, which were then each blown up to full screen size... making the result dim, grainy, blurred and about the resolution of old broadcast TV.

Which, considering the content, may have been a blessing. Then again, considering the headaches it produced, maybe not. :)

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Ok, I confess to not knowing that there was an extended version of The Abyss that improved it. The same improvement is true, btw, of the first Star Trek film. For some reason, in the theatrical release, they cut most of the humor, mostly from McCoy. When I found the extended version, it wasn't quite good, but it became at least watchable.

As for Avatar, I have seen it, and I think the author of Dances with Wolves, and Anne McCaffrey, should be suing for massive plagiarism.

Especially McCaffrey.

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I ran across a nice post on Dark Roasted Blend on the possible sources of elements of Avatar in classic science fiction, going beyond the obvious overlaps with Dances With Wolves, Ferngully, and Pocahantas.

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And, of course, now Cameron announces... it's a trilogy.

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I wrote a 5 page article obsessively discussing the 3-D technologies that are being utilized for the projection of the film. Basically, I've seen Avatar 3 times with a different type of projection each time, and each time I had a less than ideal experience. I'd be happy to post the article, but it's pretty long and very neurotic. Basically my conclusions are:

Most people won't get much of a choice which screening to go to, but there are about 7 kinds of ways to view Avatar. Here in los angeles I can see it all 7 ways--

there are different ways to see it projected on film or digital projection, either in 2-D and 3-D... Most people see it in 3-D. (If you wear an eyepatch, go to the 2-D.)
there are aspect ratios that range from 1.78:1 (16:9), which is actually the native resolution, to 1.85:1, 2.35:1, and 2.7:1 (Cinerama Dome in L.A. or Seattle).
there are at least 4 rival companies that compete to present the 3-D experience using digital projection: Linear Polarization, Dolby 3D, Real D, and XpanD.

unfortunately theaters almost never tell you in advance whether it will be film or digital projection, the aspect ratio, the 3-D experience, or the type of projector used (newer projectors are brighter and brightness is key if using 3-D glasses that dims the light by about 5%. I always sit in front at 3-D movies to compensate).

Having seen it 3 times, I can say without reserve that if you have the opportunity to see Avatar using XpanD LCD shutter glasses, it's by far the best 3-D. Real D is considered 2nd best, and is usually the best option available in smaller cities (Real D glasses look like big Ray-Ban Wayfarers). IMAX 3-D looks awesome, but you have to sit near the front because the cheap linear polarization glasses they give you dim the light and reduce your peripheral vision.

Not sure what to say about the film itself other than I hope it inspires young people to want to become astronauts and scientists. It's not exactly hard SF, but I can sort of believe that somewhere there could be a moon where all the life forms are connected to a giant living Gaia-like organism via tendrils and ganglia. And I just want a hot blue catwoman to be my girl.


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AlexHergensheimer wrote:
And I just want a hot blue catwoman to be my girl.

Nah... they pee on your stuff when you get them irritated. And wassamatta, the black leather look in catwomen doesn't do it for you any more?
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Any particular comment on Dolby 3D?

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Any particular comment on Dolby 3D?

I haven't seen it in Dolby 3-D, but I am considering it. most people I've talked to said that the 3-D looks the same but the image is dimmer because Real D screens are outfitted with a reflective silver process. I've also heard that tilting your head around slightly distorts the 3-D when using Dolby. I think I mentioned this already, but I've decided to always sit near the front from now on; I think that really helps even out the viewing experience at 3-D movies. I'm still not convinced the 3-D actually adds much to the overall experience if you ask me. But I'm trying to give it a fair shake.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/11/22/3d.rivals/

The logical part of my brain struggles to reject the movie when one blue person tells another blue person "I will FLY with you!" But somehow I have enjoyed the movie the three times I've seen it.... I never had the "transcendental" experience I've heard some people have had though... :)


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