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Rise of the Warrior Cop
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Author:  sakeneko [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Warrior Cop

I've seen quite a bit of dicussion of where the militarization came from. General agreement seems to be that it started with the War on Drugs, and accelerated with the War on Terror. In other words, it was caused by two pseudo-wars on non-country-entities, wars with no clear victory conditions. This means, there's no way to say "we've won" and deem the war to be over. :/

Drugs and terrorism are both real threats to individuals. At a large enough scale, they can also be threats to whole countries. However, the American people sold themselves a bill of goods when they decided that these threats were great enough to justify suspending or ignoring the limits our constitution places on what our government can do to individuals to prevent them from breaking the law or punish them if they do. And we're all paying the price now.

Author:  PeterScott [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:55 am ]
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Oh yes, but that's more or less the When. I mean the Why. Why do cops react this way to the WoD? Or is this entirely the fault of the Nixon administration?

Author:  DanHenderson [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:37 am ]
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If I recall correctly, part of the Why is because both the terrorists and the drug cartels were either known or presumed to be better armed than the police before this program started.

Author:  PeterScott [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:37 am ]
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Except that as the book points out the superior firepower is almost never used against similarly armed bad guys, but invariably in no-knock raids against lightly armed criminals or innocents. In situations where there were bad guys with lots of weapons, the cops usually waited it out in the sidelines.

And then there's civil asset forfeiture, as egregious a violation of the constitution as I can think of, abuse on a massive scale: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/invest ... and-seize/

Author:  sakeneko [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:43 pm ]
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Another article (blog) on the Washington Post about civil asset forfeiture.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/invest ... w-who-won/

Good article. Bad practice. :/

Author:  PeterScott [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:33 pm ]
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Progress!

Author:  sakeneko [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:32 pm ]
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I'm not sure whether to rejoice that the Los Angeles schools police are giving up grenade launchers (?!) or to shudder at the idea that they had them in the first place.

Both, I guess. :roll:

Author:  RobWright [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:30 pm ]
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sakeneko wrote:
I'm not sure whether to rejoice that the Los Angeles schools police are giving up grenade launchers (?!) or to shudder at the idea that they had them in the first place.

Both, I guess. :roll:


Gotta keep them parents who don't no no better in line, plus them uppity students.

Rob

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