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Prophets of Science Fiction 
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A new TV show with Ridley Scott. One episode is about Heinlein.


Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:06 pm
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It seems clear from the photos at the link that this production is using actors to portray Asimov, Dick, Clarke, et al. No photo of the Heinlein actor yet. I wonder whether they'll be speaking roles, or just visuals with voiceover [from the same actors, other actors, or (for authors who were captured on audiotape) the real thing].


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Thanks, Bill. That looks like something I want to see.

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the science channel isn't a part of my cable package- sounds like a road trip to see my son :)


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An shows an initial spike in 1899-1910, small hump around 1920, then taking off for good around 1945.

As far as I can tell though, these are all due to misattributed dates. In fact, the dates in Google ngrams appear completely untrustworthy. cites the OED saying Asimov coined it in 1941. Robot, of course, dates to 1920.

At first I thought I had found a reference in 1938 journal, "The Aeroplane", but it is a false OCR of badly printed "aerobatics".


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I have heard it claimed that in Czech, the word robota means forced labor or slave. I don't know if this is true or not. My English-Czech translator doesn't recognize it, but that's no proof.

Wikipedia asserts this:
In its original Czech, robota means forced labour of the kind that serfs had to perform on their masters' lands, and is derived from rab, meaning "slave".

I don't dispute this translation, but I am dubious of the claimed derivation. rab was possibly derived from robota not the other way round as robota is cognate with other Slavic languages such as Russian which has the word работа which simply means work.

Of course, I could be wrong and rab with or without the meaning given here is older than the current Slavic cognates and provided the derivation for all of them.

Robota in all its modern forms is cognate with German Arbeit as in the infamous death camp slogan Arbeit macht frei and English labor. the 'ra' of Slavic is a metathesized version of 'ar' in German, a common occurrence in all languages with words using the liquids 'r' and 'l' with a vowel as old English 'brid',(chick or fledgling), became modern 'bird'.


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A better link for my own blog entry about Ngram Viewer, with links to reference material and a bunch of amusing example plots, would be:
http://beamjockey.livejournal.com/166102.html

Sorry I released my previous posting into the wild without realizing this.

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Watched the first two of these (Shelley and Dick), hoping for something better than the usual fast-cut light and shadow show with semi-famous-name talking heads byting one sentence at a time and filled out with indifferently acted tableaux using nonspeaking actors. ("My god, Shelley and Byron said natter-grommish, too!")

Was disappointed. I don't see how anyone can watch these History/Mystery/Sci/Eddication programs any more. MTV for the forebrain.

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