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The Menace from Earth
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Author:  BillMullins [ Sun May 16, 2010 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  The Menace from Earth

The good folks at Wikipedia (you can stop reading now, Jim) tell us that Ariel Brentwood, the "menace", is a member of the Howard Families. This point had escaped me for 30 years of reading Heinlein. Is it true? Where else does she show up?

Author:  JamesGifford [ Sun May 16, 2010 10:18 pm ]
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ahh... ahhh... *bullshit* ...choo!

Wikipedia: the future of mankind's knowledge.

"I weep for the species." - Preed

Author:  BillMullins [ Mon May 17, 2010 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Menace from Earth

Okay. I removed the statement from wikipedia. Light Candle, Curse Darkness, etc.

Author:  BillPatterson [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:46 am ]
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JamesGifford wrote:
ahh... ahhh... *bullshit* ...choo!

Wikipedia: the future of mankind's knowledge.

"I weep for the species." - Preed


You have to wonder where people come up with this crap.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Menace from Earth

BillMullins wrote:
Okay. I removed the statement from wikipedia. Light Candle, Curse Darkness, etc.

The problem with Wack-O-Pedia (aka Whacko-Pedia) is that when you light a candle, some mope comes along and blows it out and then proclaims to the world that The People's Right to Knowledge has been preserved. I've lost track of the times I have added a necessary fact or removed some bit of nonsense only to have the change reversed, sometimes within a matter of minutes.

There is nothing left to do but curse the darkness.

Author:  RobertJames [ Mon May 17, 2010 4:28 pm ]
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You can request that the page be frozen, and explain why. They often do agree, knowing this is a problem.

Robert

Author:  JamesGifford [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:23 pm ]
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My most notable battle of this type was between nobody me and a four-star, garlanded, lauded uber-contributor who must have had bots watching the relevant page, because my (completely correct, legitimate and minor) changes sometimes disappeared between page refreshes.

I just don't care to fight any more of those battles. WP is overrun by idiots and assholes and what little value it has is as an intellectual leveler between those who know and those who don't have anything better to do.

The original concept was grievously flawed and no number of fix-ups, changes, patches and promises to make it better can turn that Yugo into a Lambo.

Author:  RobertJames [ Tue May 18, 2010 6:49 am ]
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I agree....and yet, it is still useful for many quick checks. The links at the bottom are often quite useful as well.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Tue May 18, 2010 7:23 am ]
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I use it frequently for pop topics - which is the sweet spot for a public info-wiki. And it's been famously established that the hard science entries are rigorously watched and maintained (perhaps the theoretical sweet spot of collaborative encyclopedism). Everything else is a complete crapshoot, and I have enough crap to shoot these days.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Tue May 18, 2010 3:11 pm ]
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Wikipedia collapses amid chaos; Jimmy Wales demoted.

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